{"id":6018,"date":"2021-03-30T22:10:12","date_gmt":"2021-03-30T15:10:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/news.bitcoinvn.io\/?p=6018&#038;lang=en"},"modified":"2024-05-13T07:42:13","modified_gmt":"2024-05-13T00:42:13","slug":"why-we-invested-into-neutronpay","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/bitcoinvn.io\/insights\/why-we-invested-into-neutronpay\/","title":{"rendered":"Why we invested into Neutronpay"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As <a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoinvn.io\/bitcoinvn-leading-seed-funding-round-in-neutronpay\/?lang=en\">announced this week<\/a> our firm has been moving ahead with leading the Seed Round into <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/neutronpay.com\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neutronpay<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, which has established itself over the past two years as the leading Lightning Service provider in Vietnam.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<h2><b>Where we coming from &#8211; background &amp; viewpoints<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have built a track record over the years to get engaged in markets and opportunities which are outside of the \u201cmainstream narrative\u201d &#8211; but where we see the huge potential due to our close-up observations, on-the-ground experience and direct interaction with the technology and people involved.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are not just \u201cinvestors\u201d &#8211; we are entrepreneurs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Being able to make our own risk-reward calculations has been key to make it from literally nothing to the position where we are now.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We decided to build our Tech startup in Vietnam back in 2013 &#8211; when apart from maybe two handful of Angels with direct ties to Vietnam nobody else believed in this market.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We decided to build Vietnam\u2019s premier Bitcoin Exchange service back in mid-2013 [Bitcoin was trading at double-digit $ amounts at the time] &#8211; when nobody apart from a few hundred weirdos in &amp; around Bitcointalk believed in the future of it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And we did all of this without any financial or other backing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Nobody told us that this was the right thing to do &#8211; in fact, almost everybody we met or talked to told us that it\u2019s crazy what we are planning to do.<\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cGoing to Communist Vietnam to build a Startup? Do they even have the Internet there yet?\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u201cBitcoin? Isn\u2019t that this tulip bubble Internet scam thingy?\u201d<\/span><\/i><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We thought we knew better, had the guts to go against the advice from \u201cinvestment professionals\u201d and we executed on it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is the \u201ccrazy bets\u201d we have made in the past which went against the \u201cmainstream narrative\u201d &#8211; but where we *knew* that something is there, which ultimately puts us into the position to help others on their own journey.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are not without battle scars (there are plenty!) and we have made a lot of mistakes and wrong decisions on our journey as well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But we made those decisions (instead of keep pondering \u201cwhat if\u2026?\u201d), we took action &#8211; and we learned our lessons from it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you want to make the right choices in life &#8211; *you* must feel it and be confident about it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Don\u2019t let anybody else tell you what you ought to do.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Be it your parents, be it some credentialized \u201cexperts\u201d, be it the mainstream narrative.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And this is also where you usually can find the most upside &#8211; because almost everybody else is scared about being a true contrarian and going against the peer pressure put on them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You need conviction &#8211; and the courage to act upon it.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>Character &amp; vision alignment over numbers &amp; hype<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So much for our general background &#8211; but why now Neutronpay of all things?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Some obscure \u201ccrypto payment processor\u201d with Canadian-Vietnamese roots?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Haven\u2019t Crypto Payments been proven to be not a really strong use case in the past &amp; everybody is just out to speculate on random casino tokens?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">First of all, we have known, observed, cooperated, talked and built stuff with the <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitter.com\/subnetmask\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Founder Albert<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> since about two years.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This was for us a sufficient time to build the trust needed to take our cooperation a step further.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We strongly prefer to work with people who do *not* give us any red flags and who work with a long-term vision in mind.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Who are able to do solid groundwork, who know what it takes to build a company with little means and are okay with doing humble, but highly focused work.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Who are looking to avoid the \u201cquick opportunities\u201d which end up compromising and diverging you from your true goals and pathway.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Who are looking to make decisions and build a company and network of partners which will compound over the years to come.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The total opposite of the glamour\/glitz nonsense you read about in the well-known brand name Online Tech &amp; Startup News Outlets, which are by and large fostering a culture of hyped-up nonsense and \u201cfake-it-til-you-make-it\u201d which unfortunately also left a strong mark on the Vietnamese Startup-Ecosystem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bullshit numbers and bullshit announcements just to impress &amp; get into the headlines.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With often very little to show for it behind the scenes.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">A very little talked about secret to achieve success:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Making up stories and being untruthful for achieving some short-term goals is the best way to disqualify yourself to work ever again with people who have a long-term outlook on how they handle their lives and business.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">With these provisions, we found that Albert over the course of the two years we engaged with him fits our bill and has an aligned mindset when it comes to how to build your business and the relationships around it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Furthermore we have been actively using his product, we have <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/news.bitcoinvn.io\/bitcoinvn-shop-accepts-lightning-payments\/?lang=en\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">built some first integrations with our own services<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and we are looking to expand the partnership on a technological and business-expansion level.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have deep experience in the space and we know:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">His product works.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">His product rocks.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s clean, fast and easy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And it\u2019s just the basic functions which it provides by now with many more advanced use cases to come which can evolve into a real technological edge.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We also know from talking with him over extended periods of time about the future of Bitcoin and how the network is going to evolve, that he has actually deep expertise on the matter and can see \u201cwhere the puck is going\u201d. And is accordingly building for it.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">From what we can see many \u201cBlockchain investors\u201d fall for various bullshit narratives peddled by various \u201cproject teams\u201d because they don\u2019t have the experience, knowledge and capability to parse out the truth from a barrage of bullshit buzzwords.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">If you can\u2019t have an in-depth or high-level discussion (and this requires that you have a very solid understanding of the topic matter as well) with such a \u201cproject team\u201d, then it\u2019s simply a \u201cstay away\u201d.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>The Bitcoin Future &#8211; built by Bitcoiners<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Last but not least, we also agreed on the matter that the absolute majority (exceptions confirm the rule) of \u201cVC\u2019s\u201d is toxic money for Startup Founders.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s the poisoned apple which tastes sweet for the moment &#8211; but often sooner than later proves lethal to your dreams and takes your soul.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It is a topic I hopefully will find the time to expand upon with a separate blog post in the near future, but for now:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We are luckily living in a time, where increasingly principled Bitcoiners have the means and capability to help fund other Bitcoiners to build out the infrastructure needed to advance the cause further.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitcoiners who put their own money on the line, their own skin in the game &#8211; and who are in it for the cause and for the long-term, rather to fulfil some \u201cinvestment mandate\u201d with other people\u2019s money.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Get people on your team and on your board who strengthen your team &#8211; rather than weaken and distract from its original vision.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s the amount of hours logged in <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bitcointalk.org\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitcointalk<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> &amp; <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoin.stackexchange.com\/\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitcoin Stack Exchange<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> and the amount of Satoshis stacked &#8211; rather than some \u201ctitles\u201d &amp; \u201ccredentials\u201d from \u201creputable institutions\u201d from a group of people who is mainly where they are due to their loyal service to the Cantillon Insider Club.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Source:\u00a0 <\/span><\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/nwoodfine\/status\/1359253163946172424\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/nwoodfine\/status\/1359253163946172424<\/span><\/i><\/a><\/p>\n<h2><b>The business case &#8211; Bitcoin, Scaling and the Lightning Network<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Last, but not least:<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"><br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">What is the business case for Neutronpay?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitcoin is rapidly moving to establish itself as the new World Reserve Asset.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">More or less all the predictions made over 10 years ago in some obscure threads on Bitcointalk are turning now into reality in fast succession.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">But we are also moving towards the era, where normal Bitcoin on-chain transactions will not be viable anymore for retail users.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">You might like it or not &#8211; but it is the reality of where we are heading towards.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">And while a variety of scaling solutions has been worked on and partially implemented &#8211; <\/span><b>much more needs to be done<\/b><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There won\u2019t be the \u201cone-size-to-fit-them-all\u201d scaling solution &#8211; &#8211; but a variety of them, many of them increasingly inter-operational.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Many of these solutions have different types of trade-offs and target use cases.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Besides various off-chain settlements, sidechains, tokenized Bitcoin, Bitcoin IOU\u2019s etc which are all going to play (and are increasingly so) their role as well as further efforts to scale the transaction capacity of the Bitcoin main chain (e.g. via <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/articles\/taproot-coming-what-it-and-how-it-will-benefit-bitcoin\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Taproot\/Schnorr<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">), <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/blog.vbtc.exchange\/2021\/batched-segwit-withdrawals-tutorial-5\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">batched transactions<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, increasing adoption of the Native SegWit transaction format, the Lightning Network has been discussed widely in the Bitcoin community as one of the ways to keep Bitcoin transactions fast &amp; cheap, while also <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/bitcoinmagazine.com\/articles\/how-the-lightning-network-layers-privacy-on-top-of-bitcoin-1482183775\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">increasing the privacy of the transacting parties<\/span><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> in the same turn.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Lightning Network has its own technical challenges and drawbacks &#8211; but we also have seen tremendous progress made over the past two years in terms of protocol upgrades, bug fixes and general UI upgrades as well as adoption by exchange, wallet and other Bitcoin service providers.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As such, the Lightning Network has in our own eyes reached this critical mass of mindshare with the movers and shakers in the Bitcoin Ecosystem which &#8211; taken together with the progressing monetization &amp; value increase of Bitcoin &#8211; will assure that within the coming three years massive additional resources will be deployed by players large and small into building out and integrating the Protocol across the whole ecosystem.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We believe that Neutronpay with its practical expertise built up over the past two years and the headstart in in-depth knowledge about the technology as well as the Network topography, transaction routing and liquidity management will be able to play a major role in our part of the world to build out this infrastructure.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><b>Conclusion<\/b><\/h2>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We have been in a place ourselves many years ago where we had to suffer for the first couple of years bootstrapping our company from literally less than nothing.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">It\u2019s time for us to give something back to fellow Bitcoin entrepreneurs &#8211; and we believe that Albert and his team at Neutronpay are therefore a good bet.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">To hear more from us, you can follow us here:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitter.com\/Bitcoin_Vietnam\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Bitcoin Vietnam<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitter.com\/neutronpay\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neutronpay<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/subnetmask\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Albert Buu<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.twitter.com\/dominikweil\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Dominik Weil<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As announced this week our firm has been moving ahead with leading the Seed Round into Neutronpay, which has established itself over the past two years as the leading Lightning Service provider in Vietnam.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":11,"featured_media":6020,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[16,10549],"tags":[8519,7076,8518,8520],"class_list":["post-6018","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bitcoinvn-business","category-featured-sub-panel","tag-funding","tag-lightning-network","tag-neutronpay","tag-startup"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.2 - 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